NAIS totally useless for source Verification
September 29, 2009
by Darol Dickinson
When a critter is over 30 months of age the USDA has made a rule that the processing procedure can not saw the carcass down the middle. Slaughter must do two cuts on each side of the spinal column and not compromise the meat with the possible material from the spinal column. Supposedly if there is a contaminated BSE carcass it could affect the meat. These animals only get BSE after 30 months of age. On a fed steer we lose the T bone cut because the bone is lost in the cut.
That is the reason for source verification, to prove the animal is under 30 months.
NAIS proposed data is retained by USDA and not available for source verification unless the animal's owner has a separate system of keeping records that they have access to.
Therefore: NAIS is useless for source verification.
Source verification is a small carrot that the declining beef industry uses to point to a flake of hope at the end of the tunnel. If everyone had source verification then there would be no premium for those who do. If cattle are over 30 months of age it is not an issue because the quasi premium of a few bucks wouldn't be possible anyway.
Currently age verification is determined by USDA meat kill floor inspectors [mouthing] cattle. An inspector trained to visually evaluate can tell within one to 4 months a animal's age by tooth development.
I process about 80 steers for our retail beef sales each year that are 26 to 32 months. I found some inspectors were guessing my 26 month steers at 30+ months and this loss of the T bones was costing me about $30 per carcass. I called the USDA people and cried foul play. He said; "Tell me the age and that will be fine."
All my steers are age number branded and we have a computer print out on every steer. Our cattle are numbered with the only method proven to be a permanent ID since before King David -- fire branding.
- I send them a computer print out showing the
- birth date,
- pedigree records,
- vaccination records and,
- rate of gain.
We have about 20 items on our computer records of each steer that no one holds in a secret vault outside the USA.
The USDA inspector respects our proven honesty and I can send him a steer 29 months and 29 days with my computer records and he regards him as under, 30 months. This is not hard, just another USDA red tape issue.
Our total record system is for genetic improvement. It is vast and cheap and far more economical than NAIS, and the tags won't fall off!
People who are amateur and who don't raise cattle, fight to keep from knowing the truth. One individual called Senator Blanche Lincoln's office this week and her staff says: "She only supports voluntary NAIS", but the reason that she voted for NAIS funding is because: "Several producers enjoy receiving the value-added from the NAIS program."
Just for the record, there is no NAIS document concerning value-added.
These people who think this system of NAIS and Premises ID is going to benefit them, can high center on theory and die on their own sword of stupidity.
NAIS ~~ over estimated, over promised, over budget, unnecessary, unneeded and unwanted.
Brad Headtel
The NAIS is a years-old concept that has outlived its time and fails to recognize that economic instability is our greatest national hazard, not, if all the animals have a government number.
Mary--Fireworks Farm, CA.
NAIS is not a direct ban on meat or chicken or goat meat or ...
but a slow, complex legal threat entailing loss of more and more
control and then of isolated bankruptcy or of just giving up farming
or ranching completely.
Linn Cohen-Cole, 2008
The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a little longer.
Henry Kissinger, former US Secretary of State
(Source: New York Times, Oct. 28, 1973)
Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.
Brad Headtel-------On Bruce (USDA) Knight's pandemic
projections
of national livestock catastrophic die-offs.
Bureaucracy never sleeps.
Neil Young
Makes ranchers paw the dirt----like a bull looking forward to the virtues of castration.
on NAIS-------Brad Headtel
Only Jesus loves the stupid. As He looks closer toward the DC Beltway------it's an ever increasing stretch.
Brad Headtel
You are known by the low morals of the bureaucrats you tolerate.
Brad Headtel
Phony science begets phony public policy.
Walter Williams
NAIS~~~~ Mother of all unnecessary federal job creation schemes.
Brad Headtel
The issue is not the issue. Who decides the issue is the issue. If you decide the issue you are a free man. If a politician decides the issue you can un-elect him, but if a bureaucrat decides the issues you are his pawn and practically without recourse.Harold Hockstatter
It is sad that here in the United States of America we must fight our government to protect our own rights, but fight I will.Jerry Fennell--From "Shattered Dreams"
The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.On NAIS -- H.L. Mencken
Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it..Adolf Hitler
There is no worse tyranny than to force a man to pay for what he does not want merely because you think it would be good for him.Robert Heinlein
If a government program is not worth doing at all, it is not worth doing well....on NAIS - Brad Headtel
Communism ~~ the government owns the means and method of production. In fascism the government controls the means and method of production.We're not happy until you're not happy...USDA official on the Westland/Hallmark Meat recall of Feb. 17, 08
NAIS is one of those issues that everyone wishes never became an issue. It is a genie that will not go back in the bottle.Troy Marshall, Seed Stock Digest, 1/7/08
The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress.on the NAIS program..... - Frederick Douglass
We're out here branding cattle, worrying about our best horse going blind, when all of a sudden the USDA is working at mach speed filling our saddle bags with heavy NAIS rocks.Michelle Reid
....NAIS matters less than flea sweat.....producer interest in NAIS is less robust than a paper pig in a barbeque pit.Wes Ishmael, Contributing editor,
BEEF Magazine, Dec. 2007
I work day and night to prevent NAIS!This is the first time in my life I have had the opportunity to save billions of dollars of wasted government tax for my fellow livestock producers all over the nation. As it was said about Queen Esther of old, from the great palace of Shushan, '...who knoweth whether thou art come to the kingdom for such a time as this.?' I feel the NAIS program, as planned, will embezzle from 10 to 60% of the profit from every livestock producer, and that is not an acceptable price to pay for a naive USDA concern about future unknown or previously eradicated diseases. Every consumer or livestock owner should spend full time to prevent the enforcement of this cost to our nation.
Darol Dickinson
NAIS will not be mandatory under my tenure. I repeat will not! Mike Johanns on mandatory National Animal Identification Surrender.
Sec. of Agriculture Mike Johanns quit the job two months later.
NAIS will put Livestock owners under closer surveillance than terrorists, illegals aliens, drug
dealers, and convicted sex offenders/child molesters. Currently,
only convicted sex offenders/child molesters have to register their premises.BSE, bovine spongiform encephalopathy takes five to seven years to develop. It's not actually a disease that you have to rush to trace. You can take about all the time you need. What you want to do is prevent it in the first place.
Reno, Nev. --- 11/29/07 Jay Truitt
NCBA VP for governmental affairs,
on the USDA proposed
48 hour
emergency
disease
trace back.
Most of the stuff people worry about ain't never gunna happen.
Will Rogers . . . . on NAIS
No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session.
Mark Twain
What this country needs are more unemployed bureaucrats.
Edward Langley
Each time we give up information about ourselves to the government, we give up some of our freedom. The more the government or any institution knows about us, the more power it has over us. When the government knows all of our private information, we stand naked before official power; stripped of our privacy, we lose our rights and privileges. The Bill of Rights then becomes just so many words.
Senator Sam Ervin, June 1974.
The USDA is a run away agency out of control, with total disregard for U.S. citizens, yet full regard for other countries and free trade at all costs. Dr. Max Thornsberry, President R-CALF USA
NAIS . . . a program that somewhat resembles an expensive plan to use baseball bats to kill mosquitoes . . . when we haven't found the mosquito---and the plan was proposed by a bat manufacturer. NAIS . . . when freedom is outlawed, only outlaws will be free. The urge to save humanity is almost always a fake front for the urge to rule.
H.L. Menchen
Is the USDA run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it? NAIS is like a fat man in a swim suit - you may not appreciate what you see, but what isn't revealed is even more fearful. NAIS Employee -- Never argue with a person whose job depends on not being convinced. Remember - A major animal disease outbreak to a State Veterinarian is like a multi-car wreck to an auto body shop.NAIS is the very model of how an unresponsive Executive Branch agency can cooperate with a globalist industrial agriculture and a technocratic corporate elite to force an undesired program upon an unwilling populace.
Mary Zanoni
NAIS press releases from USDA could present caviar in such a light we want to run from it like a falling meteorite.Many associations embrace the NAIS because their paid leadership does so, regardless of what their members truly want.
Marida Favia delCore Borromeo
On NAIS - If USDA comes up with a stupid idea -- If Congress votes to fund it -- If 296,000,000 taxpayers write the check -- I'm sorry, it's still a stupid idea.NAIS is a disease masquerading as its own cure.NAIS is the result of looking for trouble, not finding it anywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying costly incorrect remedies.As the government is doing wrong to us, like with NAIS, you gotta know they are doing wrong to people all over the world, right? Why do all these countries hate the USA?
Linn Cohen-Cole
Once government gets its hands on new power, it is never relinquished.
Henry Lamb ~~~ Sovereignty International
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